Comments on: A lack of progression? https://j11y.io/general/a-lack-of-progression-2008/ Sun, 22 Mar 2015 15:39:22 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.13 By: shin okada https://j11y.io/general/a-lack-of-progression-2008/#comment-304 Thu, 01 Jan 2009 11:46:21 +0000 https://j11y.io/?p=261#comment-304 I bought it twice and I found that they recycle the articles which are more than one year old. I found nothing interesting with this magazine. Very diappointing.

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By: Dinu https://j11y.io/general/a-lack-of-progression-2008/#comment-303 Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:27:17 +0000 https://j11y.io/?p=261#comment-303 Mostly the only reason I bought the .NET mag was to look at pretty graphics on the train home. I’ve decided not to waste my money on it as well. I used to love their podcast until they made it a video tutorial.

(Nice redesign by the way. I guess I haven’been to your site in awhile)

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By: James https://j11y.io/general/a-lack-of-progression-2008/#comment-302 Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:24:38 +0000 https://j11y.io/?p=261#comment-302 Andy, I agree, it’s a great shame though, the .Net magazine has the opportunity to create such wonderful content yet instead they waste time and money on less important things…

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By: Andy https://j11y.io/general/a-lack-of-progression-2008/#comment-301 Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:37:23 +0000 https://j11y.io/?p=261#comment-301 I unsubscribed from .net for this same reason James. The main thing about it is that you can get everything from the magazine just by being an online person – involved with reading all the usual blogs etc. Essentially as you say, nothing of interest.

Mags are OK, but so long as the ‘design’ doesn’t distract from the content.. and in the case of Mags like .net, it’s all design and nothing much else.

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By: James https://j11y.io/general/a-lack-of-progression-2008/#comment-300 Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:12:53 +0000 https://j11y.io/?p=261#comment-300 Thomas S, I wouldn’t necessarily say a “lack of motivation” is to blame; the publication itself is very respectable and sometimes I feel like they’ve put a little more effort into the aesthetics of the magazine than the quality of the articles.

The December issue had a featured interview with Marissa Mayer, Google’s vice president of products and UE. Half the space taken up by the interview were of photos of her, she may be good looking but a whole page just for a shot of her, what are they playing at, where’s the content? What I’m trying to get at is that the motivation of the .net team is shown clearly through the magazine’s excellent design and layout but it seems they consider that more important than delivering correct, interesting and most importantly, NEW content.

Shane, Thanks for your comment. Admittedly I haven’t been reading .Net for that long so you probably have a little more perspective when it comes to analysing the success of such a publication. I’m not saying that they’re not a good publication, I just think their content is not always that great… obviously there are exceptions, some articles are quite enlightening but when it comes to the technical stuff I find them to be a little below par.

To me, it seems like they’re very good at reporting the news and documenting industry trends – this is where the magazine really shines.

I don’t disagree with you about the lack of knowledge amongst many web developers/designers (those that still use tables for layout etc.) but I equally don’t see this as an excuse to only accommodate to such people… Maybe instead of covering ‘unobtrusive JavaScript’ they could cover something a little more interesting or controversial like, ‘The side-effects of JavaScript abstraction’ or ‘JavaScript and screen readers’…

Thanks for posting Dan’s Twitter profile, I’ve definitely got some suggestions! 🙂

Thomas M, That’s true, all the info is on the web, if you’re only looking for technical stuff then the magazine is DEFINITELY not the place to go! If, however, you’re looking to read up on the latest industry news and trends all nicely laid out (and a free software CD) then buy the magazine. I think some more competition would raise the bar and would force .Net in the right direction…

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By: Thomas Milburn https://j11y.io/general/a-lack-of-progression-2008/#comment-299 Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:23:36 +0000 https://j11y.io/?p=261#comment-299 Sometimes I flick through Net magazine when I’m in WHSmith’s. I never buy it though. Too expensive when all the information in it is already on the web or I know the stuff already.

Having said that Net magazine is probably the best web design magazine out there but that’s only because there is no competition. If you’re a web design beginner stay away from it and use the real Net.

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By: Shane https://j11y.io/general/a-lack-of-progression-2008/#comment-298 Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:49:09 +0000 https://j11y.io/?p=261#comment-298 A provocative post James, but I disagree somewhat with some of your points.

I’ve been reading .NET for a few years now, mostly on and off, and in the last 12 months or so, I’ve become a subscriber. Technically speaking, I don’t get a lot out of the magazine; certainly the unobtrusive JavaScript article didn’t teach me a thing, and neither did most of the other content. Once in a while, however, there is something that I’m not so familiar with, such as a recent article at Yahoo Pipes. In general, I don’t spend more than an hour or so looking through the magazine, but this is fairly typical of all magazines that I now read – the internet has so many advantages over the printed medium that we’re all familiar with.

The iPhone-specific design/development bandwagon is somewhat curious. I remember the web standards movement preaching an attitude that didn’t focus on a particular browser (and we all know which one they were talking about), but develop sites that supported standards and adopt an approach that supported progressive enhancement. We’re now seeing quite a few articles on iPhone development – I believe this is something of a turnaround. Perhaps it’s because it’s an apple product, perhaps it’s because a lot of these ‘cool’ designers/developers have an iPhone. Perhaps it’s because the iPhone is a revolutionary mobile device and it represents the future of mobile web content. I thought the iPhone article was marginally interesting, but it could have covered all the material in a quarter of the size.

I don’t know if you read the magazine a couple of years ago, but its general quality has gone through the roof, believe me.

My biggest point however is that there are a lot of web developers and designers out there who do not follow best practices. I’ve worked with so called ‘professionals’ who still use tables for layout and spacer GIFs, and I bet they’re still doing this in 2008.

I take your point about the readers letters, but written correspondence is a common feature of magazines, and although most of the letters aren’t worth reading, there is the occasional point of interest.

.NET is certainly the best web development/design magazine out there, but there isn’t a great amount of competition. If you’ve got suggestions for improvements, why not contact .NET’s editor, Dan Oliver on Twitter: @danoliver.

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By: Thomas Sturge https://j11y.io/general/a-lack-of-progression-2008/#comment-297 Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:36:36 +0000 https://j11y.io/?p=261#comment-297 I used to live by Net magazine and Web Designer, I haven’t picked up a copy for well over two years now. I don’t think I ever read one of them properly in any case.

There is so much more on offer with just a light search of the web and, if your industrious enough, picking apart some of the better designed websites out there. Reverse engineering is my hobby of choice at the moment.

Glad someone else has notice the obvious lack of motivation from these so called market leading publications. From what I can tell they seem to make more of an effort on their websites but don’t hold me to that.

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